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From: Pat <PatrickDHarring...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 2:59 am
Subject: Re: Quantum Mind

On Jul 23, 1:10 pm, Pottsie <pottsie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Science did away with the "ether" idea a long time ago, I understand, though I don't know much about the specifics of either what is was supposed to be or what it was that "science" did away with.  All I know is that it was an idea that was floated around during the 19th and early 20th centuries that is not much talked about today even in metaphysical circles among those who understand the subject best.

> However, scientists do a good job at misunderstanding what Metaphysicists are saying, and go about "disproving" what the metphysicians are NOT saying!  ;D

   Yup, and the ZPF has brought it (the ether) right back into the
fray.
> Namaste

> Pottsie

> Molly Brogan <mbro...@mollybroganenterprises.com> wrote:

> And ether?

> On Jul 23, 7:39 am, Pottsie

>  wrote:
> > Pat,

> > I think I just thought of something that may help (hinder) your quest
> > to find out what connects quanta, albeit it a philosophical point
> > rather than a physical one.

> > You have two objects.  Two of anything.  Quanta or Sardines.  For them
> > to communicate or interact there MUST be a medium between them.  We
> > look at the two objects and see nothing, and say there is nothing
> > there.  But that is a trick of the mind.

> > The Universe abhors a vacuum.  And Nothing is the ultimate vacuum.
> > There is no such thing as Nothing.  Nothingness DOESN'T exist!  It is
> > the true figment of our imagination.  We think of Existence sometimes
> > as this great big "Thing" floating on a background of Nothingness. But
> > it's not.  Existence doesn't end and Non-existence
> > begins.  Existence goes on forever.  If "Nothing" is not
> > there....there has to be SOMETHING....even if we can't see it.

> > The problem with this is is that once you define what it is that is
> > there, you will have to prove that THAT substance is continuous,
> > reaching from object to object.  In my rudimentary understanding of
> > Physics, that is what happened to Atomic Theory when it was replaced
> > by Quantum Theory.

> > Another way of looking at it is: Sound Waves don't travel through a
> > vacuum.  There must be something to wave.

> > There is a Zen mondo that goes:

> > Two monks were arguing over a flag.  One monk claimed it was the flag
> > that was waving.  The  other claimed it was the wind.  The Master came
> > along, rapped them both with his stick, and said, "You are BOTH
> > wrong.  It is your mind that waves!"

> > The medium between the quanta is Mind.  No-Thing.  Spirit.  Whatever
> > is there will not appear until we observe it. The "object" will not
> > appear until the Observer shows up! :D

> > Namaste

> > Pottsie

> "You can't smell the roses while holding your nose!" - Pottsie- Hide quoted text -

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