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 More options Jul 19, 10:02 pm
From: Pat <PatrickDHarring...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: Martin Luther was Right!!!

On Jul 19, 2:56 pm, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
> had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
> not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
> trampled underfoot.

> Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being
> she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed
> whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under
> foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to
> make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She
> would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in
> the house, to the closets.
> Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148

> It all a matter of choice, either live a life or rationality and
> reason, or believe in god.

> I choose reason. I will embrace the whore of the Devil, though she be
> eaten by leprosy. I will bear her up to avoid the tramping feet of the
> ignorant hoards of Christians and Moslems who have throughout history
> tried to suppress her. If she bears scabs and is wretched it is
> because of the indignities and wounds she has suffered from the blind
> stupidity of Abrahamic faith.

> The concepts of god and the practices of religion will not and cannot
> submit to reason. All the rituals are unreasonable, the beliefs
> unconscionable; the basis without evidence. Faith bolsters the
> infantile and tragic delusion that the majority of humans suffer
> under.

    Isn't this really another blanket ad hominem against a lot of
people?  Luther apparently chose faith over the whore.  I wonder why.
It is for those very reasons that I demand that 'God' be defined
through a reasoned approach.  It may not be easy, but, once done, we
have something worth discussing.

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