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Re: Balancing the Breaker Box

jamesrsw...@gmail.com (James Sweet) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:29:25 UT

If I had a dollar for every time someone started spouting a story like
that in order to look like some sort of "expert"...
It's complete BS, the power company does not charge based on Amps *
Volts (apparent power), they charge by kilowatt-hours (true power), it's
what it says on the bill, and if they were pulling some stunt to defraud

Re: Balancing the Breaker Box

jamesrsw...@gmail.com (James Sweet) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:18:52 UT

Balancing it is a good idea because it makes the most of the incoming
capacity, but it will have no effect on your electric bill, the meter
reads both sides and records usage accordingly.

Re: Balancing the Breaker Box

re...@midwest.net (RogerN) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:12:01 UT

Of course the technology is their for the power company to bill for actual
usage, but if they can get away with charging for the high leg amps X volts,
they may choose to do so.
An electrician at work said he knows some people that balanced their breaker
box and their electric bill went down. The power company sent their workers

Re: Balancing the Breaker Box

billnomailnosp...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:52:25 UT

Hogwash!
When I hear people say nonsense like this, I like to challenge them. "Where
did you get that information? Who told you that? Where does it say this?
Etc."
Furthermore it is pretty impossible to "balance" an electrical load in a
home anymore than it already is. Larger loads are 240 volts and already

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Re: Balancing the Breaker Box

no...@nospam.com (Tzortzakakis Dimitrios) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:21:03 UT

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No. There's one way to get free electricity, and that's illegal;to hook a
load before the meter. Balancing only helps you distribute electricity more
efficiently. Here, in EU, we have single phase service, for residence, 1 X
40 A, and then three phase. We use special bus bars that connect one of

Re: Agilent DMMs?

(John Nice) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:10:31 UT

I've had my U1242A about six months. I've known Agilent since they were HP
and I have no worries about quality. I haven't dropped it off a ladder yet
so can't comment on toughness ;-) It has all (and more) of the features I
need. The built-in probe park is a good idea, but I could wish for a hook

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Re: Balancing the Breaker Box

phsd-every...@promisesandiego.com (Stacey Chuffo) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:13:13 UT

I couldn't believe it myself so I had to Google it and sure enough I was
right, Dori the Dork was really born a man
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Agilent DMMs?

s...@thesig.net (Sparky) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:31:07 UT

I've owned & used Fluke DMMs and Tektronix scopes. I don't know much about
the Agilent U1242A DMM.
What's the history of these meters? Quality? Usability?
Anyone have any experiences to share?
Thanks.

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Re: Balancing the Breaker Box

nok...@nokids.net (Dori) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:07:11 UT

I couldn't believe it myself so I had to Google it and sure enough I was
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Balancing the Breaker Box

re...@midwest.net (RogerN) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:25:09 UT

A person at work was telling about someone that cut their electric bill
approximately in half by balancing their breaker box. If I understand this
correctly, the power company charges for power based on the current draw of
the highest leg. If you are using 100A on L1 and 50A on L2 then you would

Re: Batteryless current clamps?

jfie...@austininstruments.com (John Fields) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:41 UT

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:43:14 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
---
He said, with his last breath, and then quietly sank into the sea...
JF

Re: Batteryless current clamps?

mike.terr...@earthlink.net (Michael A. Terrell) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:58:12 UT

Like the claim that no US homes have three phase power that was made
on this group (alt.engineering.electrical) a few years ago.