I was going to post something similar regarding a different company which
sells such a product. Was searching this newsgroup when I ran across this
thread.

First of all, I understand the skepticism. There is far too much nonsense
out there.But I am surprised at the outright dismissals made without more
thorough investigation.

Let me provide a few places people can go to do further research:

instructional videos
http://www.electricpowersave.com/KVAR_Videos.html

manufacturer's website, which includes a number of testimonials, a bio of
the inventor, some educational material on electricity and how these devices
work, and so on
http://www.kvarnrg.com/homepage.html
http://kvarenergysavings.com/testimonals.htm
http://kvarenergysavings.com/understanding_power.htm
http://kvarenergysavings.com/certifications.htm

Electric bills from users of the Power-Save 1200 or similar model device:
http://www.powersavemi.com/kleebauer_page.html

Although the documents are not in public areas of any of the links I have
given, I AM in possession of studies from the US Department of Energy,
University of Santa Clara, NASA, and Honeywell.. Contact me via the contact
form at
http://www.electricpowersave.com/Contact.html
and I will arrange to e-mail copies to you.

Are there scams out there? Absolutely

Is this worth further research, if it really can promise electric bill
reductions of 10-20% That's for you to decide

Is this for everyone? No.... it only makes economic sense if your bill is
over $150 per month, maybe more.

news:139084nmvpun2d1@corp.supernews.com...
Just saw a commercial for the Powersave 1200, which will save you hundreds,
if not thousands, of dollars in energy bills.  It is targeted and designed
specifically for residential customers.

The commercial appeared on the Sci Fi channel, which is well known for
advertisements from reputable companies. yeah

So it hooks to your breaker box, reduces the power factor of all your
appliances (including, according to the commercial, TV's, heaters, ovens,
stoves, dishwashers, microwaves, water heaters, toasters, air conditioners,
and coffee makers (implies your coffee will taste better as well).  It also
filters and recycles the excess electricity in your power lines.

It also cools down TV's, because they, like your other appliances, are
receiving too much power.  This device only supplies the power your
appliances require, so there will be no heat in anything not designed to
actually heat something.  So throw away those fans on your computer!

Fascinating stuff.  It's UL tested and listed, and has been "recognized by
the Department of Energy".  They even have a report on their web site.  It
sure looks like it's from the DOE.  Oh, it was a "Program of the DOE", but
the actual report was written by the Motor Challenge Information
Clearinghouse, with a website www.motor.doe.gov that, while having an .gov
on the end, does not seem to exist.  Or the US government's computers are
all down. (they aren't)

Anyway, there's also a "university study" of this device.  Except that it's
two "PHD's" in the electrical engineering department of Santa Clara
University.  One is a part timer, the other is a study-for-hire type.  It's
a 10 page report, by two PHD's, from a university, but there's no notes,
biblio, or anything to show that it wasn't cobbled together in 20 minutes
off the cuff.  And it doesn't even mention this device by name.  But hey,
it's a study.

It's only $300.  Plus shipping and handling.

http://www.power-save.com/product.html

http://www.power-save1200.com/

Funny thing about the FAQ's.  They know how much the unit costs, they know
how long it'll take to pay for itself (6 to 12 months), but when asked how
much money folks can save every month, a long list follows "it depends on".

I'm not a huge math guy, but it can't be that tough.  Maybe they can tap one
of those PHD's to figure it out.

My question is this;

Is this bullshit, baloney, flim flam, or snake oil?

No doubt it must do something.  Heck, it might just do some of the stuff it
claims.  But while they commercial claims power plants "can" charge for low
power factors, they forget to mention that this applies almost exclusively
to the industrial and commercial sectors.  Residential customers rarely, if
ever, generate a low enough power factor to be noticed by power plants.

I expect a certain amount of dumbing down in commercials when dealing with
technical stuff, but this seems to be a collection of outright lies.

Anyway, I was wondering if this was just a grossly overpriced capacitor, and
if it can significantly alter a sine wave.

CS