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Freedom Fighter  
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From: "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:17:36 GMT
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2007 6:17 am
Subject: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
Today's New York Daily News headline labels Rudy Giuliani as a "traitor." I
fully agree, but for far more serious reasons than his choice in baseball
team favorites.

The actions of a President of the United States can have potentially
disastrous consequences for the nation and the entire world. Read the
following articles that document Giuliani's long history of despotic and
unamerican conduct, his false "heroism" on 9/11, and his ongoing support of
a defrocked priest friend linked to pedophilia, and then decide if Giuliani
is fit to be our next President.

AMERICA'S MARTINET: The DANGEROUS Candidacy of Rudy Giuliani

The mass media sometimes calls him "America's mayor." Critics label him a
dangerous fascist.  Whether he's the alleged hero who "took charge" on
September 11, 2001, or the frightening face of a new American Reich, it
appears Rudolph Giuliani will carry George W. Bush's torch into the 2008
presidential election.

When Giuliani emerged from the toxic dust of the World Trade Center the
national media caught a quick case of amnesia, preferring the iconic image
of a "hero" over reality.  They quickly forgot Giuliani's dismal tenure in
mayoral office, his life-costing failures to address the threat of
terrorism, and his sorry performance on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Before picking up the "hero" moniker, Giuliani was commonly referred to in
the city he governed as a despotic fascist and a mean-spirited thug.  These
accusations didn't just come from civil libertarians either.  Former New
York Mayor Ed Koch likened Giuliani to former Chilean dictator Augusto
Pinochet.  According to Koch, Giuliani "uses the levers of power to punish
any critic." Koch went on to explain, "He doesn't have that right - that's
why the First Amendment is so important." Yes, and by the end of 2002 the
courts had found Giuliani in violation of that constitutional pillar of
American freedom twenty-seven times!

More than 35 successful lawsuits were brought against Giuliani and his
administration for blocking free speech. In his book Speaking Freely, First
Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams said Giuliani had an "insistence on doing the
one thing that the First Amendment most clearly forbids:
using the power of government to restrict or punish speech critical of
government itself."

Giuliani's disdain for freedom of speech is best exemplified by the case of
Robert Lederman, an artist that drew caricatures of Giuliani as a dictator
and depicted his policies as transforming New York into a police state.
Lederman was ARRESTED FORTY-ONE TIMES during Giuliani's reign, not by street
cops but police brass under Giuliani's orders, for displaying his art at
political demonstrations and on the streets of New York.  All were false
arrests, as Lederman was never convicted of a crime.

In a similar fashion and again in brazen violation of the First Amendment,
Giuliani ordered paid advertisements for New York Magazine removed from
public buses because the ads touted the magazine as "possibly the only good
thing in New York Rudy hasn't taken credit for." Giuliani's response to
criticism thus often proves it was highly justified.

According to the New York Times, the Daily News, and the New York Post, now
New York State Governor Eliot Spitzer went on record in October 1998,
saying, "the current Mayor thinks he's a dictator, and does not have
sufficient respect not only for other branches of government, but also for
the citizenry and its opportunities to speak out and be heard."

Spitzer's statements, like Lederman's false arrests, stemmed from Giuliani's
totalitarian "zero tolerance" policies, which he claimed would improve the
"quality of life" in New York by punishing trivial violations such as
jaywalking, drinking in public, marijuana possession, and panhandling, and
even non-violations such as Lederman's persistent expressions of free
speech. Under this policy, New Yorkers were handcuffed and dragged off to
jail for peacefully drinking beer on their front stoops - the New York City
equivalent of hanging out on the porch.  Marijuana possession arrests
increased by well over 4,000 percent.  Arrests were even made for such
things as riding a bike without a bell on it and sitting on milk crates on
the sidewalk.

Giuliani's courtship of rogue police officers and seduction of the NYPD to
become his personal Gestapo began in September 1992, when he addressed an
angry rally of cops protesting then-mayor Dinkins's proposal for a civilian
board to review police misconduct.

It was a rowdy, often threatening, crowd. Hundreds of white off-duty cops
drank heavily (a violation for which, under Giuliani, many citizens would
later be arrested), and a few waved signs like "Dump the Washroom
Attendant," a racist reference to mayor Dinkins. Twice, Giuliani called the
Dinkins proposal "bullshit." The crowd cheered, and Giuliani was jubilant.
"Rudy was out there inciting white cops to riot," Mr. Dinkins stated.

As mayor, Giuliani's racial and ethnic biases and favoritisms were blatant.
For over a century the public use of firecrackers by the Asian-American
community for their New Years celebration, a religious and cultural
tradition, had been allowed.  In 1997 though Giuliani lined Chinatown
streets with hundreds of police to suppress this, and even refused to allow
a permit for a professionally supervised display.  The Christian equivalent
of this would be banning Christmas trees and decorations because they
occasionally start fires.  Giuliani never relented on this.  On the Jewish
festival of Purim however, when fireworks are used in the streets of Jewish
neighborhoods, the police continued to look the other way!  They also
ignored bonfires set in Jewish neighborhood streets to destroy leavened
bread before Passover.  Can you imagine the police response to this in any
poor, Black, Hispanic, or Asian-American community?  Giuliani's lasting
legacy is that in New York fireworks are OK on Purim, but celebrate the 4th
of July with them and you can get busted.  So much for "Independence" Day.

Eventually almost 70,000 citizens sued the city for such police abuses as
strip-searching suspected jaywalkers.  In 1999 James Savage, president of
the New York City police union, referred to Giuliani's zero tolerance policy
as "a blueprint for a police state and tyranny." Under the guise of fighting
crime, Giuliani had thus transformed the NYPD into his own private Gestapo,
going as far as assigning two NYPD detectives, at taxpayer expense, as
round-the-clock bodyguards for his MISTRESS.  This after his closing down
all the strip clubs on "moral grounds!"

Giuliani shored up control of the police department by appointing crony
Howard Safir as commissioner.  Safir then made the department's Street
Crimes Unit into what New York journalist Nat Hentoff described as a "rogue
operation" that made "Dirty Harry look like Mahatma Gandhi." Fashion-wise,
the unit had a resemblance to Guatemala's notorious military death squads,
wearing "We Own the Night" t-shirts, and shirts citing Ernest Hemingway's
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man" quote - quite a variation from
standard issue uniforms!

This is the police unit that became notorious for shooting innocent African
immigrant Amadou Diallo FORTY TIMES as he reached for his wallet after being
ordered to show identification.  When New Yorkers took to the streets to
protest the unjustified killing, Giuliani told the press that people were
protesting due to "their own personal inadequacies."

Hatian immigrant Abner Louima, arrested in 1997 on a minor charge, was
brutally beaten on the trip to Brooklyn's 70th precinct.  There officers
took him into a bathroom where convicted rogue cop Justin Volpe sadistically
shoved a plunger handle up Louima's rectum, then forced the same object into
his mouth, breaking his teeth.  Louima was hospitalized with serious
injuries, and stated that during his torture one of these sadists said to
him "This is Giuliani time!"

When Safir left, Giuliani appointed Bernard Kerik to take his place.  This
is the man Giuliani also recommended to head up Homeland Security.  Kerik
later pleaded guilty to accepting gifts and loans from businesses with
alleged organized crime ties while he served as police commissioner.

Some credit Giuliani's Draconian excesses with the drop in crime during his
tenure, but he just happened to be in the right place at the right time to
take credit for this.  During this period crime dropped similarly
nationwide, mostly the result of changing demographics and better policing
methods.

Eventually the Giuliani-sanctioned anything-goes extremism infected other
units in the police department.  When plainclothes cops asked a black man on
the street to sell them marijuana, the man, Patrick Dorismond, took offense
to being called a drug dealer and got into a scuffle with the unidentified
officers, who then SHOT HIM DEAD.  Giuliani issued a knee-jerk defense of
the killer cops, telling the press that Dorismond was "no altar boy."
Salon.com pointed out that in fact he WAS an altar boy!  Desperate to
justify the killing, Giuliani ordered the ILLEGAL release of Dorismond's
sealed juvenile record - for disorderly conduct!  It seems that under
Giuliani, this justifies the death penalty.  Giuliani's contribution to
Dorismond's funeral was a squadron of police in full riot gear, inciting
violence that would not have occurred without their unnecessary and
disrespectful presence.

Former schools Chancellor Rudy Crew, a one-time pal of Giuliani, stated:
"There's something very deeply pathological about Rudy's humanity - He was
barren, completely emotionally barren, on the issue of race." Giuliani's
vile racism has even been acknowledged by his successor, Mayor Bloomberg:
"You forget that every single decision [in the Giuliani administration],
everybody, every story, ...

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From: "Hoover" <h...@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:08:29 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2007 8:08 am
Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
i hate liberals

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From: "glassman" <jksin...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:09:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
Vote for Hillary

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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:16:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

"glassman" <jksin...@aol.com> wrote in message

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> Vote for Hillary

Yeah, right.
 A true NYer.

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From: taranta <durre...@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:21:42 GMT
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
that big long rant... all because rudy complimented the bosox.  chill,
bro.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:16:44 -0400, "John Fariss"


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From: "glassman" <jksin...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:39:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

"John Fariss" <jfar...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message

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> "glassman" <jksin...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:29RTi.4374$qt4.3791@newsfe12.lga...
>> Vote for Hillary

> Yeah, right.
> A true NYer.

   Well he slammed Rudi for 100 pages, so I was only stating the obvious.

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From: sli...@slidge.com
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:08:06 -0000
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

> i hate liberals

Top posts on top of the entire uncut article.

Nice.

Just remember, if you aren't donating huge $$ to them, conservatives don't
really give much of a fuck about you either.


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From: "Loren Dickens" <loren.dick...@wanadoo.nl>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:05:18 +0200
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
Duff maybe but not Clinton!
"glassman" <jksin...@aol.com> schreef in bericht
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:39:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:08:29 -0400, "Hoover" <h...@msn.com> wrote:
>i hate liberals

Now that says a lot!

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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:10:48 -0700
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I wish Gore would run


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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:53:16 -0500
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

Andrewr1 wrote:
> I wish Gore would run

I wish he'd run, too... right off a cliff.


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From: Pepe Papon <a...@mindspring.invalid>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:27:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:10:48 -0700, "Andrewr1" <and...@socal.rr.com>
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>I wish Gore would run

Why?  You want 4 more years of a Republican presidency?


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From: "Andrewr1" <and...@socal.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:33:36 -0700
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

"Pepe Papon" <a...@mindspring.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:10:48 -0700, "Andrewr1" <and...@socal.rr.com>
> wrote:

>>I wish Gore would run

> Why?  You want 4 more years of a Republican presidency?

>>> Vote for Hillary

Wow I didn't know Gore switched parties

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:39:17 -0700
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

"> Andrewr1 wrote:

>> I wish Gore would run

> I wish he'd run, too... right off a cliff.

>>>Vote for Hillary

And I wish bush had done the same before he f***ed this country up.  But we
don't always get what we want.

A short civil war would have been worth it to prevent him from gaining
power.  I'm not blaming all of the problems on him but come on...ask
yourself where we'd be today had 600 more idiots in Florida known how to
punch holes correctly


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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:55:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
Why would you want a socialist pig that that is anti-white to run for
president?

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:00:09 -0500
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"Alan Whitenton" <AWHITEN...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Why would you want a socialist pig that that is anti-white to run for
> president?

Anti-white?

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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
Ken venit, vidit, et dixit:

> "Alan Whitenton" <AWHITEN...@comcast.net> wrote...
>> Why would you want a socialist pig that that is anti-white to
>> run for president?
> Anti-white?

Well, did she ever root for the South Side team?

Catch you later.
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:12:12 -0700
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:33:36 -0700, "Andrewr1" <and...@socal.rr.com>
wrote:

He didn't.  That's the point.

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:58:02 -0700
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

"Pepe Papon" <a...@mindspring.invalid> wrote in message

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Gore wouldn't lose to any Republican candidate.  He'd be much more likely to
be defeated by someone in his own party.

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From: Pepe Papon <a...@mindspring.invalid>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:18:47 -0700
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Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:58:02 -0700, "Andrewr1" <and...@socal.rr.com>
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Right.  We saw in 2000 what a savvy and charismatic campaigner he is.

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From: "Andrewr1" <and...@socal.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:59:24 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 31 2007 11:59 pm
Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

"Pepe Papon" <a...@mindspring.invalid> wrote in message

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Whatever your point is, more people voted for him than anyone else

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From: Galloping Clippers <galc...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:24:13 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 8:24 am
Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!

Which, in a country that uses the electoral college, means nothing.

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From: Pepe Papon <a...@mindspring.invalid>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:56:14 -0700
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: GIULIANI THE TRAITOR - in more ways than one!
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:59:24 -0700, "Andrewr1" <and...@socal.rr.com>
wrote:

My point, which is glaringly obvious, is that Gore thoroughly blew an
election which was his to lose.  He was riding the coattails of a
highly popular, successful president and running against a weak
opponent.   With everything going in this favor, he used his electoral
ineptness to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Clear enough for you?


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