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Rebecca Webb  
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 More options Oct 26, 11:55 pm
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From: Rebecca Webb <web...@morris.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:55:16 -0500
Local: Mon, Oct 26 2009 11:55 pm
Subject: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
I'm trying to track down a family that owned a historic house in my
community in 1995.  They stayed only about a year.  I've had no luck
finding them on-line and the folks who bought the house from them are
gone, too (dead or disenfranchised i.e. not likely to care about my
research).  A member at the local historical society suggested asking
the post office for a record of a forwarding address.

I tried that recently, hoping to discover periods when the house stood
empty.  As best I can recall, I was told that, in the past, only the
letter carrier had forwarding info for homes in his or her route.  Post
offices seldom hang onto such info for long.

True?

I was also told that, more recently, forwarding is centralized.  Info is
sent to a large regional facility and NOT kept at local post offices.

True?  Starting when?  

Thanks if you can help.

RW


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Bill  
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 More options Oct 27, 12:21 am
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From: "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:21:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
National Change of Address...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Change_Of_Address

Might also try neighbors, electric company, gas company, etc.


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Shawn Hirn  
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 More options Oct 27, 7:03 am
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From: Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:03:31 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 7:03 am
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
In article <webbrl-28FDEC.10551626102...@free.teranews.com>,
 Rebecca Webb <web...@morris.umn.edu> wrote:

Contact your community's local recorder of deeds office.

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Erehwon  
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 More options Oct 27, 8:09 am
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From: "Erehwon" <inva...@address.here>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:09:26 -0500
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Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?

"Rebecca Webb" <web...@morris.umn.edu> wrote in message

news:webbrl-28FDEC.10551626102009@free.teranews.com...

> I'm trying to track down a family that owned a historic house in my
> community in 1995.  They stayed only about a year.  I've had no luck
> finding them on-line and the folks who bought the house from them are
> gone, too (dead or disenfranchised i.e. not likely to care about my
> research).

Are you trying to find the name or do you already have that and just trying
to find a current address for them?

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Gary Heston  
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 More options Oct 27, 12:19 pm
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From: ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:56 -0500
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
In article <webbrl-28FDEC.10551626102...@free.teranews.com>,
Rebecca Webb  <web...@morris.umn.edu> wrote:
>I'm trying to track down a family that owned a historic house in my
>community in 1995.  They stayed only about a year.  I've had no luck
>finding them on-line and the folks who bought the house from them are
>gone, too (dead or disenfranchised i.e. not likely to care about my
>research).  A member at the local historical society suggested asking
>the post office for a record of a forwarding address.

  [ ... ]

If you're looking for the family name, check the local library for
city directories around that time--they usually have a section sorted
by address. Once you have a name, do a national directory search via
yahoo, google, white pages, etc. to locate prospects.

Gary

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Gary Heston  ghes...@hiwaay.net   http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"Where large, expensive pieces of exotic woods are converted to valueless,
hard to dispose of sawdust, chips and scraps." Charlie B.s' definition of
woodworking.


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Rebecca Webb  
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 More options Oct 27, 10:50 pm
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From: Rebecca Webb <web...@morris.umn.edu>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:50:59 -0500
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 10:50 pm
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
In article <hc5dnq$1cq...@adenine.netfront.net>,

 "Erehwon" <inva...@address.here> wrote:
> "Rebecca Webb" <web...@morris.umn.edu> wrote in message
> news:webbrl-28FDEC.10551626102009@free.teranews.com...
> > I'm trying to track down a family that owned a historic house in my
> > community in 1995.  They stayed only about a year.  I've had no luck
> > finding them on-line and the folks who bought the house from them are
> > gone, too (dead or disenfranchised i.e. not likely to care about my
> > research).

> Are you trying to find the name or do you already have that and just trying
> to find a current address for them?

Have the names:

Richard L. and Kathy M. Gibbs

Want current contact info.  I have copies of the county recorder's
property transfer records.  No help there.  Neighbors remember the
family but have no idea where they went.  No luck with switchboard.com,
either.  There are no matches in this state (wrong middle initial on
Richard) and ten bazillion exact matches throughout the country.  Only
Kathy M. Gibbs I can find in cyberspace is a life-long southerner and
realtor.  

Nobody with the same surname in the town they came from.  And I'm
guessing the NCA folks wouldn't sell a single piece of info to a private
citizen...

Not sure how contacting utility companies would help.  They'd have
simply closed their accounts, then signed up with their new provider
after moving.  Even if they stayed in state or with the same utility
provider, would that company release the info to me?

Thanks for all the help so far, everybody!

R.


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 More options Oct 27, 11:44 pm
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From: LDC <ldcol...@san.spamblocker.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:44:30 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:50:59 -0500, Rebecca Webb

<web...@morris.umn.edu> wrote:
>Not sure how contacting utility companies would help.  They'd have
>simply closed their accounts, then signed up with their new provider
>after moving.  Even if they stayed in state or with the same utility
>provider, would that company release the info to me?

Typically utilities get the new address when an account is closed in
case future contact is necessary.  But your are right, they probably
would not release that information to you.

Not sure how badly you want to contact these people but the logical
step would be to contact a private investigator.  A bail bond office
should be able to give you a good referral if you can't find one
another way.  You can get a quote and see if it is worth it to you
to proceed.


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Erehwon  
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 More options Oct 28, 4:37 am
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From: "Erehwon" <inva...@address.here>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:37:49 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 4:37 am
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?

"Rebecca Webb" <web...@morris.umn.edu> wrote in message

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OK, for what it's worth, there are a Richard L Gibbs, age 55 - 59 years,
and Kathy M Gibbs, age 53, in Garrison, ND 58540.  This after looking for
common states and then common addresses for both on whitepages.com.  You can
get the address and phone number from directory assistance or
whitepages.com.  Didn't want to post too much more info out of privacy
considerations.

Also, assuming the house in question is in MN, the following on shows up on
PeopleSearch which could be the same people:

Gibbs, Kathy age 54 with Richard L Gibbs as a "relative" and addresses in:
    Garrison, ND                                    Norwood, MN
    Norwood Young America, MN        Albany, MN
    Glenwood, MN                                  Alexandria, MN
    Hillman, MN

If not MN, what city and state is the house in?  Any idea of ages, middle
names, children's names, etc. for Richard and Kathy?


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« Jeem »  
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 More options Oct 28, 6:08 am
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From: « Jeem » <n...@thebeach.now>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:08:37 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 6:08 am
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:37:49 -0500, "Erehwon" <inva...@address.here>
wrote:

I'm finding basically the same info on them as well. Mostly Albany,
MN. The records are a bit dated (2002). She was born August 1955?

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Erehwon  
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 More options Oct 28, 7:11 am
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From: "Erehwon" <inva...@address.here>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:11:11 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 7:11 am
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?

"« Jeem »" <n...@thebeach.now> wrote in message
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If the neighbors only vaguely remember them, they might still be able to
tell you whether you're looking for someone in their late 30's (if they had
a house they were probably at least 20 at the time and 14 years ago would
make them at least 34 now) or 80's or something in between (or perhaps
deceased by now).  The above couple was the only one I could find with
matching names and initials at the same household.  The connection to MN
(the morris.umn.edu address suggests that's where the house may be) and the
ages add to the probability.  That doesn't mean there couldn't have been
many more listings with one or both initials missing yet still be family
you're looking for.  The more info you have, the better you can narrow down
the choices.   Of course, a phone call to the above family may provide the
only additional info you need.  Good luck.

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Rebecca Webb  
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 More options Oct 28, 10:07 pm
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From: Rebecca Webb <web...@morris.umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:07:20 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: MAIL forwarding - how can I find where previous owner went?
Outstanding work, people!  Looks like I'm done with switchboard.com and
moving on to other directory sites!

The Gibbs family had young kids 15 years ago.  That could make an age in
the 50s reasonable now.  

Thanks for all the help.

RW


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