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Mr. Hole the Magnificent  
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From: "Mr. Hole the Magnificent" <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:06:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 11:06 am
Subject: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
Interview by Ladane Nasseri

“The cinema as we know it is falling apart,” says Francis Ford
Coppola.

“It’s a period of incredible change,” says the director of “The
Godfather” and “Apocalypse Now.” “We used to think of six, seven big
film companies. Every one of them is under great stress now. Probably
two or three will go out of business and the others will just make
certain kind of films like ‘Harry Potter’ -- basically trying to make
‘Star Wars’ over and over again, because it’s a business.”

Coppola, 70, sporting a dark suit, is being interviewed in the
Lebanese capital Beirut, where his latest movie “Tetro” opened the
Beirut Film Festival after premiering at the Cannes Film Festival this
year.

“Cinema is losing the public’s interest,” says Coppola, “because there
is so much it has to compete with to get people’s time.”

The profusion of leisure activities; the availability of movies on
copied DVD and on the Internet; and news becoming entertainment are
reshaping the industry, he says. Companies have combined businesses as
customers turn to cheap downloads rather than visit shops or movie
theaters.

“I think the cinema is going to live off into something more related
to a live performance in which the filmmaker is there, like the
conductor of an opera used to be,” Coppola says. “Cinema can be
interactive, every night it can be a little different.”

Sitting on a red velvet sofa, surrounded by stone statues of Greek
figures in the lobby of the Albergo hotel, Coppola says he did not
direct for a decade until 2007 when “Youth Without Youth” was
released: He spent that period working on abortive projects and
readjusting to changes in the film industry.

Wines, Hotels

The director, who aside from his Californian winery has also been
active in the publishing and hotel business, does not elaborate on
future projects or say whether he plans to experiment in other
industries.

“I don’t make a living anymore, I don’t have a job, I’m not trying to
have a career, I’m not trying to be rich, I’m just trying to learn,”
he says.

“Tetro”, which is based on an original screenplay, tells the story of
a young man of Italian descent who sets off to Buenos Aires to
reconnect with his long-lost older brother.

“I always hoped, even when I was younger, to do films that were
original screenplays and more personal. My career changed a lot when I
made ‘The Godfather’ because it became so successful,” Coppola says.

While the Godfather films scooped Oscars, he still has challenges in
getting sponsors for some projects. He financed “Tetro” with revenue
from his vineyard in California.

“Now, at this age, I’m doing what I wanted to do when I was 22,”
Coppola says.

Civil War

Coppola moves on to discuss Lebanon: “Beirut is the symbol of a
sophisticated cosmopolitan city damaged by civil war and political
differences but it’s very regenerative.”

The filmmaker also tells of his interest in Middle-East history and
the “relation between east and west.” He is intrigued about the
conflict between Iran’s ruling elites after the June’s re-election of
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad which led to days of mass protests.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ajbmamDBit14


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Rich  
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From: Rich <rander3...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 14 2009 8:45 am
Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On Oct 12, 11:06 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

<classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interview by Ladane Nasseri

> “The cinema as we know it is falling apart,” says Francis Ford
> Coppola.

> “It’s a period of incredible change,” says the director of “The
> Godfather” and “Apocalypse Now.” “We used to think of six, seven big
> film companies. Every one of them is under great stress now. Probably
> two or three will go out of business and the others will just make
> certain kind of films like ‘Harry Potter’ -- basically trying to make
> ‘Star Wars’ over and over again, because it’s a business.”

Yes, the poor babies are suffering.  B.S.  The movie biz is one of the
only things not hit hard by the American-made recession.

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From: G S <t...@trip.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:08:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart

Strange reaction to Mr. Coppola's words. I think what he was talking
about is the fact that the distribution of cinema is changing. With so
much more entertainment content available in our homes, the movie house
is becoming more and more focused on the customers it will always have,
teenagers and young adults. That group needs to get out and about in a
public setting, for various reasons that older people just don't have.
In the past, there was much more variety in the style of films being
shown at the movie theater. Now if it doesn't have at least an hour of
CGI and a mindbendingly rapid pace, you may not be able to see it this
weekend at the megaplex. Smaller, slower films, which generally have
more appeal among older people, can't exist within the bloated framework
of the studio system. Mr. Coppola isn't really complaining about that so
much as he is rejoicing that he now is able to make the kind of
character studies he wanted to make when he was a younger man.

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:09:38 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart

There is certainly a shake-out in progress.

The future will have films in it, (although they may not actually be
_on_ film...).

berk


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From: "The Giant Brain" <gi...@brain.invalid>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:23:17 -0500
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart

"TBerk" <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:2276ef76-9f9d-4be8-a6fe-cce2a307d4b1@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

> There is certainly a shake-out in progress.

> The future will have films in it, (although they may not actually be
> _on_ film...).

I rarely go to the theatre to see movies any longer.
It's crowded, they charge too much for popcorn and soda, the other patrons are
annoying and besides, I've got a big screen TV and DVD player at home.
Ahh, at home, lounging in my recliner, pausing the movie when I have to take a
leak or answer the phone, all the soda and popcorn I could want for a couple of
bucks and best of all, no nitwit patrons shouting their dubious witticisms at
the screen..
And besides, 99.5789% of the movies released today aren't worth seeing anyway!

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From: TBerk <bayareab...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:23:26 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart

There is certainly a shake-out in progress.

The future will have films in it, (although they may not actually be
_on_ film...).

berk


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From: "Jim Beaver" <jumble...@prodigy.spam>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:22:18 -0800
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart

> Rich wrote:
>> Yes, the poor babies are suffering.  B.S.  The movie biz is one of the
>> only things not hit hard by the American-made recession.

The movie business is pretty hard hit.  I know dozens of people in the
business struggling to hold onto their homes.  Two years ago, I didn't know
anyone in that situation.  I know attorneys who can't find jobs as
assistants.  I know former vp's who are temping.

Of course, this post was from Rich, so a certain recto-cranial inversion is
expected.

Jim Beaver


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From: David Oberman <dober...@socal.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:25:36 -0800
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart

"Jim Beaver" <jumble...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
>Of course, this post was from Rich, so a certain recto-cranial inversion is
>expected.

Hahah!! I'm stealing that line.

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Avoid normal situations.  
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From: "Avoid normal situations." <byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com>
Date: 6 Nov 2009 19:50:38 GMT
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
In rec.arts.movies.current-films Mr. Hole the Magnificent <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

  [..]

> ???I think the cinema is going to live off into something more related
> to a live performance in which the filmmaker is there, like the
> conductor of an opera used to be,??? Coppola says. ???Cinema can be
> interactive, every night it can be a little different.???

  *shudder*

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From: "Avoid normal situations." <byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com>
Date: 6 Nov 2009 19:57:27 GMT
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
In rec.arts.movies.current-films The Giant Brain <gi...@brain.invalid> wrote:

> "TBerk" <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2276ef76-9f9d-4be8-a6fe-cce2a307d4b1@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

  [..]

> I rarely go to the theatre to see movies any longer.
> It's crowded, they charge too much for popcorn and soda, the other patrons are
> annoying and besides, I've got a big screen TV and DVD player at home.
> Ahh, at home, lounging in my recliner, pausing the movie when I have to take a
> leak or answer the phone, all the soda and popcorn I could want for a couple of
> bucks and best of all, no nitwit patrons shouting their dubious witticisms at
> the screen..
> And besides, 99.5789% of the movies released today aren't worth seeing anyway!

http://tinyurl.com/ya33aoy

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:12:52 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, "Avoid normal situations."

<byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
> In rec.arts.movies.current-films Mr. Hole the Magnificent <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   [..]

> > ???I think the cinema is going to live off into something more related
> > to a live performance in which the filmmaker is there, like the
> > conductor of an opera used to be,??? Coppola says. ???Cinema can be
> > interactive, every night it can be a little different.???

>   *shudder*

Indeed.  And shutter.

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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
About the only TV channels that still make movies are Lifetime and LMN ;
the film industry may follow along and get on the bandwagon of the
popularity of dance and reality shows . Cinemas may become dance halls
with prizes for the winners. If the economy continues to shed jobs dance
marathons may make a comeback.

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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On Nov 6, 3:12 pm, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:

If you wanted "interactive cinema" wouldn't you be better off playing
video games?

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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On Nov 6, 5:50 pm, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:

You could argue that video games are about activity, whereas
interactive cinema is about having control.  Movies, of course, allow
us mercifully to escape from both...

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:11:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On Nov 6, 6:03 pm, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:

You could play The Sims.  That's interactive.  You could have a
filmmaker Sim, one who peaks early and burns out and goes on to say
things that don't make a lot of sense, like saying cinema needs to be
more like opera.

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:50:55 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On Nov 6, 6:11 pm, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:

That'd be okay, as long as he had filmmaking offspring to carry his
torch... say, Son of Sim.  (Wait, that's not right...)

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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:00:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart

no - shudder - different word

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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On 13 oct, 04:06, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

didnt read it, but what about old movie industry. lemme explain. cuz
new movies are made, old movies dont get to be seen. long live the old
movie industry. yadayadayada whine whine whine. i love it when jerk
offs defend the new movie industry over the old one out of some moral
principle.

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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:00:37 +1100
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
Mr. Hole the Magnificent wrote:

Cinema being important and loved will be nostalgia.  Such as has already
happened with pop music, it only exists in value as nostalgia.

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:40:55 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 7, 5:00 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:

It only exists as nostalgia if you're too lazy and/or old to be
bothered to find any value in pop music .  Same with movies.   People
like to ignore their own cultural shortcomings, instead writing off
movies, music, books, whatever as being irrelevent and not-as-good-as-
it-used-to-be when it's all about being too lazy to bother anymore.

With movies, aside from the addition of sound or color or changes in
what's allowed and what isn't as far as content, editing styles, etc.,
not a lot has changed for a hundred years, so I'm not going to so
presumptive as to think this is it, we're the generation, we're the
ones that are going to kill off this washed up art form and write it
off as nostalgia.


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On Nov 7, 2:00 am, G S <t...@trip.net> wrote:

Yes, both... i.e., with the transitive following the intransitive...

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:35:21 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart
On Nov 7, 7:40 am, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:

Seems to me that both movies and pop music are representational art...
and in that respect they'd be no more nor less subject to nostalgia-
fication than the eras they document...

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