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From: missguy...@hotmail.com (miss guydid)

Date: 11 Jun 2004 21:59:38 -0700

Local: Sat, Jun 12 2004 12:59 pm

Subject: Re: how come we still talk primarily about directors?

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poldy <po...@kfu.com> wrote in message <news:poldy-D0668C.15382511062004@netnews.comcast.net>...
> In article <d3aeee5b.0406111337.29ff0...@posting.google.com>,
> jayembeeNoS...@snurcher.com (jayembee) wrote:

> > In fact, I would argue that writers are probably replaced
> > more often than directors.

> Film making is a collaborative medium and usually, the directors are
> suppose to have the final authority on the artistic side of things. But
> we know producers often overrule directors.

yes, it all depends on the contract. an average hollywood director is
a hired hack craftsman.

> And writers are pretty low on the totem pole, below the directors and
> actors who like to infuse their "input" on the script.

largely because most writers are hired by the producer to write a
formulaic script. and, most screenwriters are cynical hacks who just
wanna break into the industry and give us cliche-ridden crap.

> Directors are more like a managerial position. They are chosen based on
> their past financial performance (as are actors) and expected to deliver
> the film in a way that enhances the economic value of the studio
> property.

> Particularly in these FX-fests, directors appear to be guiding the
> actors how to move in front of a blue screen rather than drawing
> emotional responses from them.

> Who comes up with the "vision" to do the movie? Do all directors
> story-board how the movie is going to look or are there "visual
> consultants" or "designers" who determine the look of a movie? As well
> as the FX people who can say what kinds of effects are or are not
> possible?

with the average hollywood product, director don't count much. i don't
care who directed X-men, terminator 3, pearl harbor, etc. all same
shit.

however, even with hollywood movies, there are directors with a
personal vision and/or concept. cameron, jackson, wachowski brothers,
etc, like them or not, are not mere hired hacks.

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