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 More options Jun 12 2004, 8:10 am
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.past-films, alt.movies, rec.arts.movies.current-films, alt.cult-movies
From: odno...@hotmail.com (Emperor Gondo)
Date: 11 Jun 2004 17:10:44 -0700
Local: Sat, Jun 12 2004 8:10 am
Subject: Re: how come we still talk primarily about directors?

Heynony <nos...@noway.com> wrote in message <news:110620040003092894%nospam@noway.com>...
> choral reef [yeah, right] wrote:

> > some people are more partial to 'auteur theory' than others

> Why not ask who are the top ten auteurists and anti-auteurists in this
> newsgroup?

> I would nominate myself as about #23 on the auteurist list, at best.
> Like a lukewarm agnostic who can't commit,  I have so many exceptions,
> footnotes, uncertainties and yes-buts to my belief in the theory that
> my status as a card-carrying auteurist has long since been revoked.

> Is there value to studying films grouped by director? Sure, often. Just
> like studying by genre; doesn't mean genre is the overwhelming be-all
> and end-all force driving the making of films, but it makes study
> managable and frequently enlightening. So I have just downgraded the
> theory to wishy-washy nebulousity. OTOH there are clearly Welles films,
> Fords, Capras, Hawks, Boettichers, etc. These men are artists every bit
> as much as the greatest painters who single-handedly produced their art
> (or supervised the brushes of their employees, students or
> apprentices). OTOH, despite immense bodies of exceptional films, are
> there Curtiz or Bacon films? Probably not; there are literally dozens
> of films by each of these guys where I simply can't find them at all.
> But I have a hard time understanding how, working under the same system
> and with the same craftsmen as dozens of other directors, they were so
> successful if they are not the artists primarily responsible for the
> product.  I've got so many other hands on this issue that I've just
> downgraded myself to #42 on the list. No commitment.

cuz there's director as Personal artist--welles, bergy, fellini--and
director as able craftsman--zinnemann, curtiz, siegal, zemeckis.

casablanca is a great genre movie, not personal filmmaking.

there are directors who fall somewhere in between: ford, hawks, such.


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