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muzicia...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Jan 27 2008, 11:11 am
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From: muzicia...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:11:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Jan 27 2008 11:11 am
Subject: Why can't I copy Imeem file?
I that viewing an Imeem video creates a file called flaFB.tmp  I
attempted to copy it and put it on another drive to see if it could be
converted to another format, but it won't let me copy it. I get a
"unable to copy, file being used by another program". I've never
encountered a file that couldn't be copied.

Further, when the Imeem window is closed, the file disappears.

Anyone know anything about this and how it can be circumvented?


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 More options Jan 27 2008, 12:09 pm
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From: Paul <nos...@needed.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:09:40 -0500
Local: Sun, Jan 27 2008 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?

muzicia...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I that viewing an Imeem video creates a file called flaFB.tmp  I
> attempted to copy it and put it on another drive to see if it could be
> converted to another format, but it won't let me copy it. I get a
> "unable to copy, file being used by another program". I've never
> encountered a file that couldn't be copied.

> Further, when the Imeem window is closed, the file disappears.

> Anyone know anything about this and how it can be circumvented?

Discussed here. Video type is Adobe/Macromedia Flash Video.

http://www.hightv.de/showthread.php?t=25585
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imeem

There is bound to be a tool out there somewhere, that will
download Flash video.

http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=copying+flv+video&kgs...

    Paul


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 More options Jan 27 2008, 12:12 pm
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From: "jim" <j...@home.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:12:12 -0500
Local: Sun, Jan 27 2008 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?

If you use Firefox, there are lots of tools ...
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flash+video&status=4 .

jim


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 More options Jan 29 2008, 3:32 pm
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From: blackout...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:32:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 29 2008 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?
On Jan 26, 8:12 pm, "jim" <j...@home.net> wrote:

Actually, those don't work for imeem "sometimes" because some of the
videos are just funky. it will try to download and imeem will close
their certain download ports/services etc. and you'll end up getting a
0kb file.

 If you REALLY want the video desperately... You can try doing a power
turn off to your computer... either A. Unplug it or B. Turn it off
using an auto switch. This will make it close and not close firefox,
thus that flaxx.tmp will still be there and BAM you have your video.
Also, i suggest using http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/index.php to play
it.


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 More options Jan 29 2008, 3:35 pm
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From: blackout...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:35:10 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 29 2008 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?
On Jan 26, 8:12 pm, "jim" <j...@home.net> wrote:

Actually, imeem is wierd because it doesn't allow certain videos to be
downloaded for certain reasons. It is just security they placed in it
to disable people from downloading from their site (to increase users
watching and clicking on/looking at ads). Dam them... But anyway, the
best/easiest way to fix this problem is let it download full (make
sure it is windows temp) and then Unplug your computer or take out the
power from it whatever way possible. Make sure all your programs don't
have anything saved because taking out the power will turn off your
computer...

 But anyway, after you unplug it.. Firefox won't be able to delete it
and it won't be using it (duh) and simply cut that to wherever you
want and play it.

 Also, i suggest using http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/index.php to
play it.


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 More options Jan 29 2008, 3:43 pm
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From: blackout...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:43:09 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 29 2008 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?
On Jan 26, 7:11 pm, muzicia...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I that viewing an Imeem video creates a file called flaFB.tmp  I
> attempted to copy it and put it on another drive to see if it could be
> converted to another format, but it won't let me copy it. I get a
> "unable to copy, file being used by another program". I've never
> encountered a file that couldn't be copied.

> Further, when the Imeem window is closed, the file disappears.

> Anyone know anything about this and how it can be circumvented?

Imeem won't let firefox plugins work due to security blocks and plug-
ins they made to ruin them... So, the easiest/fastest way is to
quickly turn off your computer after downloading the video. In other
words, unplugging it or doing w/e you can to make it stop getting
energy. Plug it back in etc. and then the file won't be deleted and
firefox won't be using it. :D.

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 More options Jan 30 2008, 5:54 am
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From: "jim" <j...@home.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:54:46 -0500
Local: Wed, Jan 30 2008 5:54 am
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?

<blackout...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:f25f1dc5-8d4b-41cf-a9d5-9aefaaa67bcf@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

I wonder if Unlocker could be used to copy it while it is playing?  It's
worht a shot - and a heck of a lot less likely to cause system problems than
unplugging the PC.

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/


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 More options Jan 30 2008, 6:10 am
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From: muzicia...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:10:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Jan 30 2008 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?
On Jan 29, 2:43 am, blackout...@gmail.com wrote:

> So, the easiest/fastest way is to
> quickly turn off your computer after downloading the video. In other
> words, unplugging it or doing w/e you can to make it stop getting
> energy. Plug it back in etc. and then the file won't be deleted and
> firefox won't be using it. :D.

.laff  I discovered this by accident since last checking this thread.
I was in a big hurry to get out the door so I hit the kill switch on
my UPS. When I powered back up I discovered the .tmp file was still
there.  Ah ha.... It works whether using Firefox or IE.

I was going to ask if there was a better, less jury-rigged way to do
it. But I see several people came up with the same solution. Might
give unlocker a try.

But how are they preventing you from copying the file when Imeem is
active? I've never encountered a file that couldn't at least be copied
whether it was being used or not.


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 More options Jan 30 2008, 7:26 am
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From: Paul <nos...@needed.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:26:15 -0500
Local: Wed, Jan 30 2008 7:26 am
Subject: Re: Why can't I copy Imeem file?

Operating systems support various flavors of file locks.
According to this, you may be able to check the properties
of the file, while it is locked, but not be able to do things
to it. So the first thing you'd want to acquire, is a utility
that can tell you more about the file, while the file is
under the control of Flash. (Maybe something in the Sysinternals.com
collection...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking
http://www.sysinternals.com   (now owned by Microsoft)

One mechanism that might work for defeating the lock, is if the
place the file is stored, is on a "foreign file system". Say
you had a share set up on a Linux box over Samba, and opened a file
for locking on it. Windows might try to lock the file, but maybe the
foreign file system doesn't support locking, or doesn't support
it quite the same way. Then, if a process is running local
on the Linux box, it may be able to copy the file any time you
want. (Windows thinks it is locked, when in fact it is not.)

Now, because Windows likes to put so much stuff on the C: drive,
this might not be as easy as it sounds. People writing programs,
know that the C: drive is a more secure place to do stuff, so they
may prevent places other than C: from being used. In that case,
the plan isn't going to work. Sometimes you can set an
environment variable, to declare a TMP directory, and
perhaps changing the pointer to that in your Windows
environment variables, would allow changing where the file
is stored. It depends on whether Flash honors such a variable.
If I was writing Windows code, I would ignore the user :-)
Safer that way.

So you'd need some knowledge of the more intricate details
of file locking on Windows, to find a weakness and exploit it.

I used to do various kinds of experiments on Unix boxes, years
ago, with the two kinds of locks that were supported, for things
like figuring out who owned the department's only license key
for a computer program. But in that case, the Unix I was using
had a very nice development environment. I could write short programs
to do whatever testing I wanted. I don't think there is
such a thing as "a short program" on a Windows box :-)

    Paul


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