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daniel tisdale  
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 More options Jul 24, 9:48 am
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From: daniel tisdale <daniel6...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:48:48 EDT
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 9:48 am
Subject: use of table?
The sum of the inverse squares of the numbers between successive twin primes (1/4^2 + 1/6^2...etc.) converges to something like 0.1029...A reference like the Online Enc. of Integer Sequences contains many in this ballpark and I see nothing self-explanatory. Can someone point me to the correct constant and the appropriate formulaic description? Thanks. DT

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ge...@math.mq.edu.au  
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 More options Jul 24, 12:47 pm
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From: ge...@math.mq.edu.au
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:47:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: use of table?
On Jul 24, 11:48 am, daniel tisdale <daniel6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The sum of the inverse squares of the numbers
> between successive twin primes (1/4^2 + 1/6^2...etc.)
> converges to something like 0.1029...A reference like
> the Online Enc. of Integer Sequences contains many
> in this ballpark and I see nothing self-explanatory.
> Can someone point me to the correct constant and
> the appropriate formulaic description? Thanks. DT

There's no reason to think there is a simple closed form
for this constant, is there? We can't even prove there
are infinitely many pair of twin primes, so we don't even
know for sure that yours is an infinite series.
--
GM

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daniel tisdale  
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 More options Jul 24, 6:19 pm
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From: daniel tisdale <daniel6...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:19:43 EDT
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: use of table?
I'm not looking for a closed form, I'm asking about the table. The sum converges whether there are infinitely many twins or not. The notation of the two major tables is a little daunting. It involves abbreviations and estimates I'm not familiar with. If someone knew which item it was, I could hunt down the details.

The table includes infinite sums or sums of many terms. It does not consist of only closed forms. See, e.g., Brun's constant.


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ge...@math.mq.edu.au  
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 More options Jul 24, 8:28 pm
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From: ge...@math.mq.edu.au
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:28:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: use of table?
On Jul 24, 8:19 pm, daniel tisdale <daniel6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not looking for a closed form, I'm asking about the table.
>  The sum converges whether there are infinitely many twins
> or not. The notation of the two major tables is a little daunting.
> It involves abbreviations and estimates I'm not familiar with.
> If someone knew which item it was, I could hunt down the details.

> The table includes infinite sums or sums of many terms.
> It does not consist of only closed forms. See, e.g., Brun's constant.

You've lost me. I don't know what you mean by "the table."
I don't know what you mean by "the two major tables."

Do you mean that you have entered the sequence 1, 0, 2, 9 in
the OEIS, and it has given you several sequences that start
that way, and you don't know which (if any) is the sum of
the inverse squares of the numbers between twin primes?
--
GM


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daniel tisdale  
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 More options Jul 25, 4:06 am
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From: daniel tisdale <daniel6...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:06:44 EDT
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 4:06 am
Subject: Re: use of table?
In essence, yes. Even entering seven digits, assuming I can rely on those I've calculated, produces dozens of choices. Here's a typical entry (Plouffe's remarkable site):

1029638220330180 = (p241) sum(1/(a*n+b)/k^[n/2],n=0..inf),a=195,b=140,k=20

This seems straightforward. Perhaps a more experienced eye can discern among the choices. Here's one I can't parse.

sum(a(i)/primes,a(i)=[-1,-1,-1,1,1,-1,-1,-1,0,-1,-1,
1,0,-1,1]

I don't think it's what I want, but not knowing what the function a(i) refers to, I'm not certain. The sum I'm interested in is an obvious one to calculate in studying primes. There are at least two large collections of mathematical constants. It hardly matters which one you use if you can identify the number.

Does this clarify the problem? And if the sum turns out to be finite, then I guess the "closed form" would be the somewhat unwieldy but finite sum...DT


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Gerry Myerson  
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 More options Jul 28, 7:56 am
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From: Gerry Myerson <ge...@maths.mq.edi.ai.i2u4email>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:56:59 GMT
Local: Mon, Jul 28 2008 7:56 am
Subject: Re: use of table?
In article
<9734229.1216930034604.JavaMail.jaka...@nitrogen.mathforum.org>,
 daniel tisdale <daniel6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In essence, yes. Even entering seven digits, assuming I can rely on those
> I've calculated, produces dozens of choices. Here's a typical entry
> (Plouffe's remarkable site):

> 1029638220330180 = (p241) sum(1/(a*n+b)/k^[n/2],n=0..inf),a=195,b=140,k=20

> This seems straightforward. Perhaps a more experienced eye can discern among
> the choices. Here's one I can't parse.

> sum(a(i)/primes,a(i)=[-1,-1,-1,1,1,-1,-1,-1,0,-1,-1,
> 1,0,-1,1]

> I don't think it's what I want, but not knowing what the function a(i) refers
> to, I'm not certain.

I would interpret that notation to mean
a_1/p_1 + a_2/p_2 + a_3/p_3 + ...
where p_1, p_2, p_3, ... = 2, 3, 5, ... is the primes
and a_1, a_2, a_3, ... = -1, -1, -1, 1, 1, ... as given,
although I'm not sure whether that's a finite sum with 13 non-zero terms
or an infinite sum with the numerator having period 15. I would hope
there would be an explanation of notation somewhere on the site.
I'm a little worried, though, because my interpretation surely leads to
a negative number, while you've been asking about a positive.

> The sum I'm interested in is an obvious one to calculate
> in studying primes. There are at least two large collections of mathematical
> constants. It hardly matters which one you use if you can identify the
> number.

> Does this clarify the problem? And if the sum turns out to be finite, then I
> guess the "closed form" would be the somewhat unwieldy but finite sum...DT

Steve Finch is another guy interested in mathematical constants,
in fact he has written a book about them. Maybe he knows something
about this one.

--
Gerry Myerson (ge...@maths.mq.edi.ai) (i -> u for email)


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Robert Israel  
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 More options Jul 28, 8:27 am
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From: Robert Israel <isr...@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:27:19 -0500
Local: Mon, Jul 28 2008 8:27 am
Subject: Re: use of table?

That infinite sum would diverge, no?
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Robert Israel              isr...@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca
Department of Mathematics        http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia            Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Gerry Myerson  
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 More options Jul 28, 11:01 am
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From: Gerry Myerson <ge...@maths.mq.edi.ai.i2u4email>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:01:21 GMT
Local: Mon, Jul 28 2008 11:01 am
Subject: Re: use of table?
In article <rbisrael.20080728002505$7...@news.acm.uiuc.edu>,
 Robert Israel <isr...@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca> wrote:

I would expect it to, yes.

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