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Leroy Quet  
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 More options Oct 21 2008, 12:38 am
Newsgroups: sci.math
From: Leroy Quet <qqq...@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 12:38 am
Subject: Sequence Defined By Its Subsequences Reversed
Define the sequence {a(k)} as follows:

a(1)=1. a(n) = the largest integer such that the finite sequence
(a(n-1),a(n-2),...a(n-a(n))) occurs somewhere as a subsequence in the
finite sequence (a(1),a(2),...,a(n-1)).

This is sequence A145652 of the On-line Encyclopedia Of Integer
Sequences.
http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A145652

It begins like so (unless I made an error):

1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 3, 3, 2, 1, 2, 3, 5, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 5, 1,
1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 1

Question: Is this sequence periodic after some point?

I guess, perhaps, that one of the easiest ways to prove the sequence
isn't periodic, if it isn't, is to prove that it contains arbitrarily
large terms.

Proving it IS periodic, if it is, could entail simply calculating
enough terms so as to show that the sequence has a string of terms
that repeats.

I calculated the terms above by hand, so, of course, I could have made
an error; and the correct version of the sequence could already be in
the EIS somewhere else.
I hope not.

Thanks,
Leroy Quet


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hagman  
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 More options Oct 21 2008, 4:02 am
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From: hagman <goo...@von-eitzen.de>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:02:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:02 am
Subject: Re: Sequence Defined By Its Subsequences Reversed
On 20 Okt., 18:38, Leroy Quet <qqq...@mindspring.com> wrote:

Clearly, a(n+1) <= a(n)+2 as an occurance of a(n), a(n-1), ..., a(n-a(n
+1))
within a(1), ..., a(n) implies an occurance of a(n-1), ..., a(n-a(n
+1)-1)
within a(1), ..., a(n-1).

This implies that you made a mistake.
Indee:
1, 1, 2, 1, 3,  1, 3, 3, 2, 1,  2, 3, 5, 1, 1,  2, 2, 2, 3, 2,  3(!),
3, 3, 3, 4,
1, 1, 2, 2, 2,  3, 2, 3, 3, 3,  3, 4, 1, 1, 2,  ...

Hey, that looks periodic.
Assume we know already that the sequence up to a(n) repeats as above,
i.e.
1,1,2,1,3,1,3,3,2,1,2,3,5 followed periodically by
1,1,2,2,2,3,2,3,3,3,3,4.
Then it is easily verified that after the last known 4 comes 1 because
4,3 has not occured before;
then another 1 because 1,4 has not occured;
then a 2 because 1,1,4 has not occured, but 1,1 has;
then a 2 because 2,1,1 has not occured, but 2,1 has;
and so on until we have added another period.

hagman


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Leroy Quet  
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 More options Oct 21 2008, 5:03 am
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From: Leroy Quet <qqq...@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:03:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 5:03 am
Subject: Re: Sequence Defined By Its Subsequences Reversed

Darned gummit. I guess my sequence isn't as interesting as I wished it
was.
I have sent a correction in to the Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences,
giving credit to hagman for the correction.

Thanks,
Leroy Quet


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