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From: mcjason <mcja...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:24:16 -0700 (PDT)

Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 10:24 pm

Subject: Re: machine figure

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On Jul 24, 12:01 am, James Waldby <n...@no.no> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:28:14 -0500, Jon Slaughter wrote:
> > "Ray Vickson" ... wrote ...
> >> On Jul 23, 11:33 am, mcjason <mcja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Say pieces on a board, make each a pair with another piece.

> >>> like...

> >>> |55|44|66|
> >>> |44|66|55|

> >>> so figure out how a piece can move.

> >>> pick any piece, try to move it somewhere. when you move a piece you
> >>> have to move it's

> >> Possessive form of "it" is "its". The form "it's" is short for "it is".

> >> R.G. Vickson

> > Well aren't you a freaken genius!!! and took all that time to reply to
> > his question!! AMAZING!! YOUR A GOD!

> First, perhaps you meant to use the contraction "you're" instead
> of the possessive"your"; that is, to say "YOU'RE A GOD!", which
> means "YOU ARE A GOD!", rather than "YOUR A GOD!" which in English
> is not a meaningful phrase.

> Second, Vickson's reply followed McJason's post by about 2 hours,
> so your "all that time" comment is lame, given that you took 3
> hours to reply to Vickson's post.

> Third, McJason didn't ask a question. He or she apparently wants
> to present some kind of model for a machine or automaton but in
> posts so far has been somewhat incoherent and inconsistent and
> hasn't clearly described the ideas or rules the machine obeys.

> -jiw- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

I meant to improve this...

Say pieces on a board, make each piece a pair with another piece.

like...

|55|33|66|
|44|66|55|
|33|44|22|
|22|11|11|

a piece can only be figured out to move one way...

pick any piece, try to move it somewhere...

have the chosen piece move to another piece, it moves there and makes
the other piece have to move too.

when a piece is moved to another piece, it becomes a pair with the
piece it moves to.
any piece that is moved has to have it's pair move at the same time.

any piece to move to another piece is a piece that moved at the same
time as it's pair, and moved to another piece that

moved at the same time as it's pair too. A piece that moves to another
piece becomes a pair with it, and the other of the pair
has moved to become a pair with another piece.

try anyway, works in one way where a piece can move back to the piece
to move first.

A common type of problem, I forget what it's called.

A piece always goes where a piece leaves, the first piece has the last
piece go where it left.

You can't move a piece that moves where the piece came from.

There is no such thing as a free space, a piece always moves to
another piece.

A pair never moves to a pair.

A piece works out to move where another piece can get back to where a
piece moves from.

The last move has to be known for the first move to be made, because
the first move can't be understood until
the last move is. That's because the first move is where a piece moves
to and it works around to the last move, and the
last move is where a piece can work getting to from the first move.

so try this...

draw for each piece a line that shows each piece that moves to another
piece for the way that piece can move. A line should show a
piece that moves back to the piece started from. See each piece and
pieces involved in moving for that piece as a machine part.
A machine part is a connected condition where there's a dependency on
one condition for another condition.

see this as a machine diagram.

move a piece then figure the machine diagram again, it's the same
machine though...

see how every other piece moves another way now?

what happened for how the machine moved?

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